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Grateful Dead Live at Berkeley Community Theater on 1984-11-02

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Grateful Dead Live at Berkeley Community Theater on 1984-11-02

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Jack Straw-> Peggy-O, El Paso, Loser, Smokestack Lightning-> Spoonful, Iko Iko Help On The Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower-> Lost Sailor-> Saint Of Circumstance-> Wharf Rat-> Gimme Some Lovin'-> Drums-> Playin' In The Band-> Bertha-> Good Lovin', E: Casey Jones

Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Berkeley Community Theater
Location Berkeley, CA

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Reviewer: lilrichwhiteboy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 15, 2013
Subject: Very Good Show For '84
Overall, this is a very good show. Well played and strong song selection, though Jerry's vocals are a little shaky tonight (nothing that a good FOB couldn't handle.) Jack Straw is hot and almost as good as 10.20 with a great Peggy-o follow-up. The Smokestack > Spoonful is pretty unusual (I think it works better in a 1st set than a 2nd set.) Iko is good but, the set is short a few songs. The H > S > F is good, standard material with an extra nice Slipknot!... though it gets a touch sloppy right before Franklin's.
Reviewer: doug_the_dude - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 3, 2012
Subject: --
Dave Marsh, in his 'Rolling Stone' review for Neil Young's classic "Tonight's the Night" album:

"It's a glorious mess, with Young and Crazy Horse thrashing through the wilderness and giving death the finger."

That's how this show feels. '84 Dead really is a tough go, for the band had toppled from the experimental beauty of the previous fall tour in '83 and had its twin towers, Jerry and Phil, adrift in drug hazes...and then they pull something like this out.

It's a five-star performance, but it's hard to give this one five stars when the band is clearly so jittery -

Set 1 - Jerry helpfully informs us that "your guineas I will burn" in Peggy-O, and don't even try El Paso in the first set - it's laughably bad. But then Bobby brings a powerful one-two blues smackdown and Jer begins Iko Iko with the weirdest guitar intro *I've* ever heard for that song....end of first set. Weird.

Set 2 - now, this is where that above quote plays in - coupled with the absolutely beautiful, crystalline quality of this board - Phil on tight, CLEARLY bouncing on one side, Brent's tinkling golden sand dollar-keys on the other - we get a H>S>F that is impossible to do anything else while listening to it - this is just BALLS-OUT GUTSY.

On a dime they turn to Lost Sailor > Saint and it's just barely controlled but Bobby does us a big favor and plays it cool to keep things under control for a little while longer until....

Wharf Rat >
Gimme Some Lovin' >

and there's no bottom for this territory - they're out there, clearly, and Space even goes past the ten-minute mark (use this board, as it's complete, for this section)....a Playin' reprise, freaking BERTHA...I mean, everything's all completely, perversely backwards, but *damn* if it isn't delicious.

This sort of weirdness set the stage for a lot of the Dead's best '85 shows, where the setlists were absolutely unpredictable some nights and they were clearly out on a limb with the chances they were taking. This is a great representation of that otherwise rather nondescript 6-day run at Berkeley, and probably deserves credit for being at the top with the best of '84.

So why not just a full five? I don't know....there's something just so twisted, so almost dangerous, about this show - there isn't that headlong confidence...this thing is just kind of flung out over the water, and the energy of this is really astonishing, and absolutely worth hearing, they don't make as many mistakes as you might imagine, but it sort of just seethes in its own murky weirdness. Five, but four.
Reviewer: mmccor - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 15, 2010
Subject: No energy?
The previous reviewer is an idiot. He obviously wasn't there. I was. The roof was coming off the little place from the moment they did Smokestack into Spoonful into Iko to end the first set. If there "was no energy", why did the boys crank out such an amazing second set. The general consensus in the place at the break was that it was a great show, and that was before the second set. Out of 100+ shows from 1978 to 1993 or so, this was definitely one of the best, "No energy"? What an idiot.
Reviewer: JamminJerome - favoritefavorite - May 1, 2008
Subject: looks good on paper
lots of cool stuff like smokestack>spoonful>smokestack, the playin' reprise with no actual playin', lots of pre-space time, and that surprise Casey Jones.

but this show's a stinker, for the most part. Bobby's voice is very scraggly, the energy level seems pretty low, and there seems to be a general lack of cohesion. Granted, 84 is a weak year, and this show isn't even one of the best from the year in my opinion, despite what everybody else says. It's unlistenable for me, for most of it. The Jack Straw is nice, as is the Playin' Reprise (without playing playin' earlier).
Reviewer: dr. flashback - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 23, 2006
Subject: Top Ten !!
One of the first shows from this era I got on CD - from good old GD Love, albeit an MP3 version. But many is the night I have cranked up this show with choice refreshments and been transported to another land. Funny - takes me back to those early MP3 and FTP days of the mid 90's - many of the shows that everybody seemed to have on their servers, you know - 5/8/77 and 6/18/74, etc. This was one of them. And now, years later when I've heard most of the 1984 SBD's, I can still see why this show was front in line to be shared digitally.
Had to get out the patchouli and Champa incense for this one, to take me back to that fall of 1984. Pre-coma. The mists of time when the lot was still a small, kind place, and the Cid was still pure and strong.
I realize 1984 is a low year in the ratings game. And true - it's certainly an off year when compared with 1981 or 1989. But the great shows just shine even brighter in comparison.
Right off the bat - Jack Straw into Peggy-O, this tells you that the non-ordinary is the norm for tonight. And indeed, the unusual set lists are a real plus for me in making this a top ten for the year. A Smokestack>Spoonful in Set One?? And Iko Iko to close?? WTF??
And Set Two - hah, they just don't want to stop and do Drums tonight for some reason! Wharf Rat and Gimme Some Lovin are supposed to come AFTER the Drums guys. And a post-Drums Bertha? Other rarities for you trivia fans - they would not play Casey Jones again until 1992!! And this show features the first ever version of Gimme Some Lovin - which reached its peak in 1989.

Loser is where the boat really leaves the shore and the band weaves the spell. Bobby delivers a great version of Smoke>Spoon, with plenty of raunchy guitar from Jerry. The Iko is well-jammed and leaves you upbeat and smiling, exactly what you expect from a Set One, even if it is a bit short. But they make up for it after the sun goes down.
What a monster second set, starting with one of the best Help>Slips of the year. Once Jerry starts the jam section of Slipknot, you know you're on the bus. Near the end, Garcia nails every note of the "knot", as if to make up for the few misses earlier in the song. Then the Franklin's really sails out of ther harbor - energetic and dance-inducing. Sailor has that misty, trance-like feel, with Jerry firing off the runs in between lyrics.
Then - Wharf Rat! Jerry starts quietly with the signature chords - then builds this old war horse to new heights. Listen to Brent's spine-chilling organ fills here. Listen to Garica's raspy truer than life vocal. This Rat is one of most soulful of the year, hands down. The middle section will make your eyeballs spin; Bobby's ringing harmonics, Brent's sub-fathom organ, and more. Finally, there is Drums. You'll need a break by this point, believe me.
A long, 11 minute Space ensues. Again, one of my favorites from the pre-midi era. Lots of echoey and phase shifty guitars. Just weird enough to test your reality, but not too harsh or dissonant.
Then - another surprise. The Playin reprise without a preceding Playin to refer to!!! Of course, the effect of this on the first-time listener, and probably those at the show, is to make you say "Whoah, I'm so baked they played Playin earlier in the show and I can't even remember it!!?) Ha ha. A nice Jam here. Then, without dropping the ball, then enter the home stretch with another surprise segue - Bertha into Good Lovin, letting everyone know they are not gonna let this show fade quietly into the night. Instead they stoke up the engine full steam ahead. Brent's organ work on Good Lovin, as all through the show, is outstanding.
1984 is hit or miss. But when they got it right, the results are well worth collecting. A good Sbd too, maybe A- for clarity. Gotta have!
Dr. Flashback :-)
Reviewer: pnc - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 24, 2006
Subject: this really is quite good
definately 5 for the year. jer's voice is amazingly ragged at points, and the playing can get a bit out of hand to the point of slop at times (although that is part of the beauty of it, i guess), but the energy, song selection and crystal sound make this one a winner for the ages.
i like the jam out of space ALOT...jerry is letting it rip fo' sho'.
Reviewer: majordomo - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 23, 2006
Subject: the thin man spits!
folks-this is the shit that always kept us coming back--to be there when it all came together. weir is in real deal form on smokestack/spoonful and good lovin. the slipknot/franklins ALMOST comes off the track but doesn't---teeters a bit but this leaves it more intriguing somehow. no surprise lesh loves this show!--- classically trained guy who always dug the raunchy stuff---passenger or here gimme some lovin and casey jones--lesh sounds really engaged throughout. the casey jones flat out embodies the principal of RAGGED-BUT-RIGHT. nice placement of material also--lost sailor/st. into wharf rat is beautiful and the drums/space is crazy weird like they were in 84/85. i agree with a previous fellow traveler that although we generally view 89-91 as a high water mark--see miami dark star 1989!-- sometimes the free-wheeling franklin stuff from the middle of the decade was less choreographed and just crazier---although more likely to flop badly! the thelonious monk approach is sometimes the best way to create a new vocabulary. know what i mean?
Reviewer: David Bolewski - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 1, 2005
Subject: Superior sonic quality for 1984
Breathtaking quality and performance. Phil Lesh holds these shows in very high regard.If your searching for the sound especially high quality audio...this could be the one. I find 1984-1986 the bands best and most creative/psychedelic. The music drips like candles. It's not mechanical and tight like the later 80's which I also love to tears.We need some warm lst gen Alpine 84's and 85' sbd's. Is help on the way? 5 stars all the way. Download this special recording.
Reviewer: capn doubledose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 18, 2005
Subject: Unbelievable - best Franklins ever?
I saw the first smokestack at Worcester and the whole back end of the show after drums just died. This never lets up and how many smokestack>spoonfull>smokestacks did they ever play - 1 and this is it.... The franklins though is the pick of the litter and is up there with Binghampton '83 and Hampton '81 - This may be in fact the best franklins though they ever played - I have heard at least...

Lost>saint>Wharf rat??? this is the only time I think they did this as well.... From a novelty and musical standpoint this is an unequivical 5. Lastly, I cannot get enough of the vibraphones Mickey plays in space they started doing that Spring I think in Providence for the first time which was also freeking hoot to be at. Healy starts tweaking these and it becomes a very heavy scene for those dosing - ahh the memories...
Reviewer: capn doubledose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 18, 2005
Subject: Ubelievable - best Franklins ever?
I saw the first smokestack at Worcester and the whole back end of the show after drums just died. This never lets up and how many smokestack>spoonfull>smokestacks did they ever play - 1 and this is it.... The franklins though is the pick of the litter and is up there with Binghampton '83 and Hampton '81 - This may be in fact the best franklins though they ever played - I have heard at least...

Lost>saint>Wharf rat??? this is the only time I think they did this as well.... From a novelty and musical standpoint this is an unequivical 5.
Reviewer: PUFFtronica - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 20, 2005
Subject: WoW Franklin's Tower
What a show, the quality is IN-CREDIBLE not to mention the setlist which is also a work or art. Great show boys keep up the good work. lol
Reviewer: Duanebase - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 30, 2005
Subject: we want phil
first gimme some lovin ever and a great pre drums equal a good time.this is also the first time phil sang lead on a song since 73. download it. would i steer you wrong?
Reviewer: early 80's meltdown - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 1, 2005
Subject: Jack straw and Good ole Grateful dead.
I like finding real hot Jack Straws and This is one. I seen alot of the 89 run and recall Some real hot versions. Any one that wants to post some of their favorites that would cool to see what comes up and check back here another time.
I loved seeing/hearing the Jack Straw at the Alpine 89 summer show. What a blast. I remember it pretty clear beatiful day in all. Glad to have been there.
Thanks ahead of time.
Reviewer: lobster12 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 21, 2005
Subject: second set
Interesting show all around. the placement of spooful>smokestack with iko closer sets things up for a nice second set. Love the eharf rat and gimme some love before drums. take a listen, you'll be gald you did.
Reviewer: NW Corner - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 10, 2004
Subject: Best Show
Saw Over 300 Shows This One Still Stands Out As One Of The Very Best!! The Engery That Night Was
Rockin Jerry & Bobby Where Trying To outdo Each Other All Night.It Has It Flaws But That Just Added To The Night.Bobby Forgot The Words To El Paso And The Look Jerry Gave Him.Still Makes Me Laugh.I'll Never Forget This Show.
Reviewer: Benzosity - favoritefavoritefavorite - December 2, 2004
Subject: Everything but the H>S
The first set is really short, but pretty badass. High energy Jack Straw. The blues tunes are awesome, a personal highlight. Help>Slip suffers from miscues, and almost falls apart at the beginning of Slipknot. Damn. Saint Rocks, however, picking it right back up. Wharf Rat is decent, but not outstanding, and Gimme Some Lovin' is fun, if a little off. Brent's voice sounds crazy though through some kinda filter. Casey is a fun encore, and pulled off well. The band is having a good time. The best show of the run, i wish i could give it about a half a star more.
Reviewer: mts7 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 2, 2004
Subject: Wharf Rat>Gimme Some Lovin'
This is a rock-solid show from 1984. The standout is Phil's agressive, in-your-face introduction to Gimme Some Lovin' out of Wharf Rat and Brent's pop-metal harmonies during the song. Fans of mid-80s Dead show definitely consider downloading this (after 6/30/84), but even if this era is not your thing, at least grab the Gimme Some Lovin'.
Reviewer: Augy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 4, 2004
Subject: Pretty darn tootin'
I'm partial to April Fool's but this was not to shabby !
Reviewer: BenKarm - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 3, 2004
Subject: You had to be there
Next to that Dark Star Greek show, this one here was the show of the year for me. Great little venue, I scored seats at that last minute just before the show and my friend and I squeezed into one seat in the 6th row. Great El Paso, first west coast Smokestack with a Spoonful sandwitched in the middle and an Iko all in the first set. We also got a very soulful Wharf Rat before the drums and then the came the big break0out of Gimme Some Lovin', which was Phil's first real song with lyrics that he started singing again. The memories of this show and the feel of the crowd are not captured on this soundboard tape. Bertha rocked the house and Good Lovin' pushed the energy even higher, especially during the "push back the night" chant. Casey Jones was the great dessert after a great meal. Great night to be a deadhead.
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